Tuesday, 9 August 2011

The Walworth Road - Only Fools no Horses

I'm no writer. I'm not particularly good at it and it doesn't come easy to me, but after my journey home from work today (8th August 2011), I feel the need to share my experience on the looting (especially as I've read a lot of rubbish both in the press and online) and so have started this blog. I find writing can be a good outlet for anger and at the moment I'm feeling pretty angry.


Whilst at work I saw on the internet that trouble had flared in Hackney. I expected it would kick off, but not so early and in broad daylight. I left work at about 6:30 and my worry at the time was whether or not to go to the barbers, I didn't want to be left with half a haircut if things kicked off. I live in Camberwell which borders Brixton, where there had been riots the night before and I was actually lucky not to get caught up in. I was driving home pretty late in the evening and I would normally have gone through Brixton, (exactly through where the looting and fires were taking place), but I recalled there had been some road works the last time I'd been in the area (couple of weeks ago) and so instead went a different route.


Anyway at my bus stop on the Strand in Central London, I didn't get on the first bus to Camberwell, it was rammed and I didn't fancy standing up the whole way home. The next bus came a few minutes later and I jumped on. Just as I was approaching Elephant and Castle, I got the first phone call checking that I was ok. My mate told me that there was rioting going on in Peckham, (which borders Camberwell on the opposite side to Brixton) and wanted to know where I was and how things were in Camberwell. At this point I started paying attention to what was going on the street rather than listening to my music. Elephant and Castle looked completely normal and so I assumed I'd have no problem getting home as I thought that this would be the likely place of any trouble. However, I was wrong. The bus didn't get very far away from Elephant down the Walworth Road, before the driver pulled over behind two other buses and turned off the engine and everyone had to get off.
Police organise blocking off the Walworth Road
Police block vehicles and pedestrians from travelling south down the Walworth Road




Walking in front of the other two parked buses, I saw that about 15 police officers were blocking off people and traffic from going any further down the Walworth Rd than Manor Place. A massive crowd started to gather, Walworth Rd is normally very busy, lots of buses and cars pass through and as buses were pulling over more and more people were joining. This was all very peaceful, it was full of ordinary people wanting to carry on their journey. The officers seemed very calm, none were in riot gear, most were in uniform and a few in suits, but they didn't seem to have much of a clue what was going on, (all they would say is there is some disturbance down there) or when it would be sorted. I watched officers repeat themselves again and again as different people questioned them. It didn't seem that any police officers were using common sense, I actually wanted to take control. I wondered why they didn't use a megaphone to speak to the increasingly large crowd - this was all taking place 200 metres from Walworth Police station (on Manor Place), so they must have been able to get one. I wondered why they didn't do anything about the traffic, ok the buses had to remain stationary, but Manor Place and Browning Street were open and cars were coming out of both of these roads, why weren't cars stuck on Walworth Rd diverted down there away from Walworth Rd? It was common sense and would have only taken one officer to sort out and would have stopped the jam being all the way back to Elephant and Castle.


                     
Crowd on Walworth Road




After updating my facebook and replying to a couple of texts I was trying to figure out what to do - there was no advice from the police. Surely they knew looting was going on, that their was debris all over the street and that the Walworth Rd would not be open for hours, so sensible advice would have been to make your journey home avoiding Walworth Rd if possible. They could have advised people to walk to Elephant and Castle (a substantial transport interchange of tube, train and bus to get advice on finding an alternative route home) I was feeling quite hungry, and ironically was standing outside a closed McDonalds - they would have made a lot of money if it had been open. All the shops in the area were shut, even Bagel King, and anyone who knows the area, knows that Bagel King is open 24/7. I didn't fancy standing around for an unknown period of time and although I could have gone back to Elephant and Castle and taken a longer route home, I decided to try and make my way through the back streets to Camberwell. I followed a woman down Manor Place past the Police Station, we'd got about 400 metres pass the station when a young mixed race or asian guy ran past us with some small items in his hand (maybe mobile phone boxes) and he shouted something boasting about his loot. The young black woman (in her 20's) I was walking with kissed her teeth and said something about him being an idiot for conforming to stereotypes. We walked down Penton Place, and had the choice to walk up Penrose Street back to the Walworth Road or continue on the back streets. I was not 100% sure of the way on the back streets and to be honest curiosity got the better of me and I walked up Penrose Street back to the Walworth Road as did the young woman.
Looted shop on the corner of Walworth Road and Penrose Street - 8th August




As we got to the Walworth Road, I couldn't see the police line further back up the road which had stopped us coming down, but I did notice the first 2 shops I came across (on the corner of Penrose and Walworth and on the other side of Walworth Rd opposite Penrose) had their windows and doors smashed as you can see in the pictures, but other than that it was sparse in the immediate area.




Looted shop on Walworth Road opposite Penrose Street - 8th August

Walworth Road (view from Penrose Street) - 8th August
I could see further down the street (and you can see in the picture below) that there was a group trying to break into the footlocker and that there were buses stationary in the street. I wondered what would have happened if I'd got on the earlier bus, guess I'll never know.




Walworth Rd Footlocker being looted - 8th August




I decided to head further down the street. There were a lot of people out on the street, but relatively few involved in looting. There were a lot of people (my estimate is 30% of people there) who looked as though they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time (like the two girls and the guy on the bike in front of the bus). It wasn't really a scary environment, I'm not saying that people weren't frightened, but I think a better description would be shocked and disgusted. I saw a middle aged woman walking with her elderly mother through the worst hit area and they were obviously concerned, but I (and I hope they also) didn't feel that they were unsafe. It sounds stupid to say it, but the atmosphere amongst everyone else seemed like carnival - I actually saw a girl getting chirpsed (chatted up). There were plenty of people (my estimate is maybe as many of 50% of people there) hanging around, fascinated by everything and enjoying watching the 'entertainment'. They didn't seem to be in the wrong place, they wanted to be there and to see what was going on. I got the feeling that they wouldn't get involved in smashing any shops in, but if there were goods dropped by looters, they wouldn't hesitate to pick them up and I actually witnessed this later on. Lots of these onlookers were females and young kids (10-13) and they came from ALL races. I didn't notice any racial tension, Walworth is a very diverse area and white and blacks were mixing together whether that was in watching or in looting.
Looted shops on Walworth Road - 8th August


On to the looters. A lot of them (more than half by my estimates) didn't bother to hide their faces. I don't know if this was down to bravado or stupidity, but also maybe because there were no police in sight and no media, although I suspect there is plenty of CCTV around there. From what I noticed the instigators were older guys (20+) but a lot of the followers were teenagers. It didn't feel like it would get violent. Nobody seemed interested in fighting each other and as mentioned there were no police to fight. I wasn't paying attention to where I was walking and barged quite hard in to a big black guy with a bandana over his face, who was with 3 or 4 other guys, instinctively I said sorry and he responded "Cool bredren" and spudded me (touched fists). The only thing that made me a little nervous was taking pictures. I was careful not to capture anyones faces, I felt that was the only thing that could have got me into trouble.




As I continued walking through the Walworth Rd, I noticed a couple of interesting things. As pictured, a LCD TV lay on the street, it didn't seem damaged, so not sure why it was left there, maybe because it was only about a 19"!!!
Discarded LCD TV on side street off Walworth Rd - 8th August
A local convenience store had its shutters down, but all the staff (between 6-8 Kurdish men) sat on crates outside. They were obviously making sure that nobody looted their shop. They seemed calm and didn't appear to have weapons and nobody seemed interested in bothering them.  I also noticed that the bus drivers had remained inside the buses that were stuck in the middle of the looting. I was surprised by this, I thought they would have taken their keys and quietly slipped off, rather than being a sitting target. However, they looked calm, one driver had an old white lady still on his bus that he was talking to. I felt sorry for her, getting off the bus in an area that she may not know whilst looting is going on would be terrifying and she may not have been able to walk very far. She really didn't have much choice except to wait on the bus until the police came - I imagine she was waiting a long time. Hopefully, the fact that the driver was a black man considerably bigger than any of the looters made her feel a little at ease. I also felt bad when I noticed a young black girl (maybe 13) crying, she was being comforted by a number of people and I overheard that she was upset because she couldn't get into her home
Looted Cash Converters shop on Walworth Road - 8th August
As I got further south down Walworth Rd, there were less and less people and no looting was currently going on, although there was evidence that looting had happened earlier as you can see by the picture of the Coral betting shop.
Looted Coral Betting Shop, Walwort Road- 8th August
Outside the Argos a number of DVD's were scattered all over the floor. A car that had come out of a side street and realised there was no way of getting up the road pulled over and 2 white women jumped out the car and started picking up as many of the DVD's as they could. One of the women then shouted to the other "come on let's go, let's not get greedy" and they drove off. This was at approximately 7:30.
Assorted DVD's on the street outside Argos Walworth Rd - 8th August
Assorted DVD's on the street outside Argos Walworth Rd - 8th August
Assorted DVD's on the street outside Argos Walworth Rd - 8th August




It may sound like I don't feel the goings on are that bad, when I'm saying that it wasn't violent etc, but that's definitely not the case, I'm just stating facts, it's annoying me that a lot of the reporting I'm hearing and reading is opinion, speculation and rumour rather than fact.  I only want to hear accurate reporting (especially when it comes to race - it's definitely not just black men involved), I don't really care what people think, I can make my own decision on what to think, but if you want to hear my thoughts, you can do below.


I'm really angry about ALL of those involved. Those that are causing the trouble, have no respect for innocent people - homes and cars are being destroyed - there can be no excuse for that. As in Walworth where the damage didn't (during the time I was there) involve fire or damaging peoples property, the fact that shops were ransacked still made me mad. It wasn't just chains that were targetted, independent shops were hit too, they can't afford these losses and many will go out of business. Even looting chain stores is far from being a victimless crime, they employ many people and the looting will likely cause jobs to be lost, maybe some stores won't even reopen. I've heard a lot of people speculate on the reasons for people getting involved in the looting and there are lots of them, many very complex, (although none come close to justify what is happening) but to me there is one reason that is key and more important than anything else and that's that people thought/think they can get away with it. They can't be allowed to get away with it and MP's and Police have said they won't. That's the only thing that politicians and police have said that I actually believe. I'm sure they will spend months going through videos and photos identifying the looters and arsonists, but the time for this is after the disturbances are stopped.


I'm also really annoyed with the police. I'm not the police's biggest fan (like most young black men), there are a lot of things they could do better. When I was younger I was constantly getting hassled by them, including getting pulled over 3 times by different coppers whilst driving down the Old Kent Road on the same night. Although things have definitely got better over the years, it just seems there are so many things that could be improved very easily. Communication being a key example. After the shooting of Mark Duggan, the truth should have been put out straight away. Rumours were leaked to the press that he had shot at the police first, when the police officers on the scene (and any witnesses - the cab driver for example) knew this wasn't the case. The police belatedly now admit this. The Police may have feared a disturbance if they had admitted they had shot a man dead who hadn't shot at them, but they made it worse when they didn't clarify that reports he had shot at them were wrong. I think that they presumed that people would believe this story until the IPCC report came out and tensions had calmed down. What they didn't expect was that Mark's family and friends would completely reject that he would shoot at the police, he may have been involved in criminal activity, but by all accounts wasn't a violent person, at least not a killer letalone a copkiller and those that knew him smelt a rat. I know they can't put out the full details when an IPCC investigation is ongoing, but they could have said a man has been shot dead by a police officer and the officer has been suspended (surely they have to suspend even if on full pay) whilst an investigation takes place. People may have been angry, but at least it wouldn't have felt like a cover up, which obviously would make people more angry. It just seems that those leading the police are making some pretty big mistakes (let's not forget phone hacking and the De Menez shooting at Stockwell) and makes it hard to justify their six figure salaries. Unfortunately it seems to take something to go majorly wrong (Stephen Lawrence for example) for things to be improved and lets hope lessons will be learnt from this. Having said all that, I can't have anything but sympathy for the police having to deal with the disorder that has occurred over the last few days. Their mistakes don't deserve bricks being thrown at their heads.


I'm also angry with the politicians. It took Cameron and Boris a long time to come back from their holiday's and it seems they came back for the wrong reasons i.e. they realised it was going to effect their political careers if they didn't rather than wanting to sort out the country. Now they are back it seems they are more concerned with looking good on BBC and Sky news than really getting the situation sorted. We don't need them walking around Croydon, Clapham Junction etc shaking hands and thanking people. If they haven't got better things to do than kissing babies they should have stayed on holiday - I'm sure they are protected/accompanied by a number of police officers (who definitely have better things to do) whilst on their jaunt. I'm glad that Boris got a hard time in Junction, hopefully this buffoon will never get elected again. But it's not just the Tories, Milliband has also only just come back and is also in Peckham for the cameras. I've seen a lot of MP's on the TV (I've been watching constantly) and so far the only one that has done himself any credit is David Lammy. I'm sick of hearing MP's saying that these people will be punished. Theresa May has made an idiot of herself calling on people to ring the police and identify looters - people on the same news programmes are saying at the moment police can't respond to 999 calls,  they haven't even been able to get through to the police to report break ins etc and she's advising people to ring up and say they've seen Tony with a new pair of Nikes. Surely it's more important to stop the looting happening before worrying about grassing up Tony.


I presume that it is up to the government as to whether police can use rubber bullets, water cannons or even bring in the army. Therefore its disgraceful that the most senior politicians were not here. I obviously don't know all the pros and cons, but I am massively in favour of water cannons. As I state earlier, people are rioting because they can. They have realised that if enough of them do it, in enough different areas, then the police can't stop them. Also, I have mentioned that I feel a lot of people involved are hangers on. Therefore if you have a water cannon, you can first send a megaphone warning that people need to clear an area before the water cannon is fired - I think most people will leave then (as I said a lot of people are just onlookers), police can then approach, they may not need to even shoot the water cannon or only give it a short burst. At the moment, the police are looking on and the looters are looting in their faces knowing they can't be touched. Having a water cannon means that you can take on a crowd that is bigger than the police force. Surely they are safer than driving armoured vehicles towards a crowd, which they did last night!


I wouldn't say I'm angry with, but I'm annoyed by, the media (even though I work in it myself). There have been a number of innapropriate people getting airtime and the presenters have been ill equipped with the basic knowledge of who the people they are intereviewing are. Point in case being this interview with Darcus Howe, whom I am not a fan of.


The reports on the trouble in Ealing also really pissed me off. I keep hearing that Ealing is a "leafy affluent area" where you would never expect this type of thing. Well we don't expect this type of thing in Tottenham, Brixton or Hackney either - it's been 25 years since we've seen disturbances anything like this in these areas. Reports keep talking about how people must have come from other areas in to Ealing because locals would never do anything like that. Maybe, I'm being over sensitive, but I just don't like the connotations of what they are saying. Sky News and Dermot Murnaghan the worst culprets. Lastly, the jesters that they have giving the weather reports are annoying at the best of times, but when something serious is going on, we really don't need to see their inane smiling faces and chirpy voices cracking jokes. Can a producer not tell them just to bring it down a notch?


The looting in Walworth hasn't been mentioned on TV, obviously there are a lot of disturbances in other areas that were a lot more serious, but on a normal day what happened in Walworth would have been headline news. It makes me wonder how many other smaller scale disturbances there were and whether the police (even with increased numbers tonight) will be able to cope especially if forces are coming from other areas that might find that they have their own disturbances.


I think I've just about managed to spit out everything I want to say, and I feel a little more calm, let's hope it calms down in the high streets too. It's taken me the full day, in between doing some bits of work to write this up. I don't imagine many will find this, letalone take the time to read it all. However if you are reading this do let me know :) and if you've got any comments then I'm of course really interested to hear - oh and apologies for the bad grammar.


Stay safe

284 comments:

  1. An excellent first hand account of what happened in one area - thanks for sharing with us all, Motown.

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  2. Gordon here, an ex-pat living just outside of Washington DC. Having lived for a few years in Stoke Newington and Dalston I found myself scouring the media to find out what is really going on. Thanks to the Guardian for linking to your blog. For me this is the best piece I have seen yet and it gives me hope as I sit here thousands of miles away watching the fires and the looting on the evening news and feeling useless and gutted.

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  3. Thanks for this Motown. I'm in Camberwell too and I understand what you are saying about our neighbourhood. I got stopped going home at the Walworth Road roadblock and so I chose to cycle via Kennington and Oval. I was wondering what I would have encountered. Now I know!

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  4. Your honest and colour-blind approach to the recent troubles is the best piece of writing I have read in a long time.

    Those esteemed journalists who are employed or contribute to respectable newspapers, websites and news channels should take lessons from you. Maybe then they will remember why they went into journalism in the first place - to write the truth and encourage sensible debate.

    The tone of their reporting and the partisan selection of photographs and video footage over the last four days have had me bad-mouthing the pundits and so called "experts".

    It is no wonder the racists and bigots are feeling even more empowered as the put on their black tinted spectacles and scream "scum", "thieves", "black gangs" and "black looters". Going one step further the EDL (English Defence League) is now calling on its members to help "defend" their "community".

    Like you, I saw black and white looters and trouble makers, yet guess what? Of all the hundreds of people arrested and now charged with some kind of offence the Guardian chose to highlight a black learning mentor. Says it all really doesn't it? Spiteful, unhelpful and very, very dangerous.

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  5. This is better than any coverage we've gotten in the States. Thank you for your level-headed thoughtfulness and attention to detail. Cheers.

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  6. Really well written! Helped a young brazilian girl to understand what's happening in UK, without any cheap sensationalism touch. Thank you, really.

    Marina Pontes, Rio de Janeiro.

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  7. Having read this I can't believe you describe yourself as not a writer, it's one of the best accounts of the riots I've come across. Thanks

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  8. There's been lots of people talking rubbish the last few days. Much respect to you for not being one of them.
    I was on my way home around the same time and was diverted round the back of walworth rd. I did see what was left of it yesterday and it was so sad. i agreed with everything you said, particularly about the media coverage. its so frustrating to see people bringing up things that are irrelevant or just plain wrong. and those weather reports were doing my head in too.
    Anyhow, keep writing...

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  9. A very articulate article, of which you should be proud. However, I cannot abide everyone's including yours) criticism of the police and MPs - they do the best they can in a very fractuous world. As for these "poor disaffected people," they have life handed on a plate to them in this country. You sound like you're a local lad, and you chose to get yourself an education and use it to better yourself - so much so that you can write an educated piece such as this. These people have no more or less opportunity than you, yet they CHOSE to opt out. They have to correct their OWN errors in life, or live with them, whilst hopefully teaching the next generation not to make the same mistakes.

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  10. I think you write well, your grammar is good and you are entertaining and insightful.

    There is much more to the whole phenomenon of these riots and disturbances than meets the eye.

    I think Darcus Howe was the only person I have heard so far mention the "Suss" laws reintroduced not so long ago.

    The police a playing a game here.

    If all the rioters were "mere criminals" why doesn't this happen on a permanent basis? Why haven't we had riots all year every year for decades?

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  11. Thank you for writing this, well done. I live just off Walworth Road and really appreciate your story

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  12. Good read, got your blog link from Roger Ebert's twitter.

    Paul From London Canada.

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  13. It's hard to evince a convincing demeanor of anger with your arms full of Nikes.

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  14. Thankyou for sharing your account. It's good to see a clear, well written, factual and intelligent response to what's happening. The mainstream tv reporting has a really worrying under/overtone of racism and classism to it. Thanks for adding some much needed balance and perspective.
    I lok forward to reading more of what you have to say, thanks again for sgaring your experience.

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  15. Well written, thank you!

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  16. Hey Motown, cudos for such fine reporting and opinions. Read your blog via Guardian from the comfort of Palm Springs, California. Thanks for such fine detailed writing along with pix. Your words beat all else I've read on BBC, Guardian & LA Times.
    There aren't words to convey my heartfelt sorrow regarding all that's happening. Am hoping you'll all have safety and security restored soon - along with peace of mind.

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  17. Thanks for your post. I live in Walworth and was also around the area on Monday afternoon. I just wanted to add a perspective from earlier in the day.

    At around 4pm I was in a cafe on Arnside Street when a woman came in and said that 'the riots' were coming and they should shut up shop. I headed out onto Walworth road and walked up and down for nearly an hour as one by one all the shops shuttered up and people gathered in groups on corners. The sense of waiting was tangible, everyone knew something was coming. I have never experienced anything quite like it, the communal anticipation of a whole street. I met a friend outside the Kurdish 24 hour shop, which as you say was the only one with men apparently standing guard, and we walked up to the Heygate. About 6.30 we got a call that trouble had started on Walworth Road and we walked back up to the police cordon and decided pretty soon to move on as the police were very touchy and nervous. As I walked her home to Camberwell through the Brandon Estate (same route as you) we passed various boys dragging wheelie bins out onto the main road to fill up with loot. There were no police at all further than 15 metres from Walworth Road (one police officer explained that half the local force had headed up to Hackney earlier) and people were speeding around in cars and on bikes as boys ran back laden with Footlocker bags, but we could have been invisible, I felt no threat at all. You called it a carnival; at the time I said it was just another type of party.

    My thoughts seeing this, and now, are that it is sad, really sad that young people see a mass looting of local shops as a reasonable thing to do, given the chance. I fail to see how it doesn't show an acute disconnection from mainstream social behaviour and their everyday urban fabric. I also fail to see how saying that can be dismissed as excusing their actions in any way. 'Mindless violence' in a society has roots and they are complex to understand and even harder to try to resolve. But trying to do that is not giving in or being soft, it is the only way forward from here. 'Down with this sort of thing' is a valid point but it only takes us a few steps away from the problem and nowhere near a solution.

    Thanks again for this. You captured the day really well.

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  18. Thank you Motown for a really excellent piece of writing, reporting and analysis, which I came across (like so many others!) via the Guardian. It's pulled together lots of the disparate thoughts that have been swirling round my head over the last few days, and given me new ones to think about the situation with, as well as the need to tell people about this post. That's the hallmark of the best kind of writing, in my view.

    Like so many others, I was heading down the Walworth Rd on my bike that evening, thankfully ahead of the trouble at 6pm, but the atmosphere, even in the swim of the traffic was taught and jumpy - and as you said Bagel King and Oli Food Store were shut - something which just couldn't be a good sign. I'm glad I happened to finish up work early that evening.

    I wonder if one of the reasons Walworth and Camberwell have been so little mentioned in the press, is that unlike Brixton, Peckham and Tottenham, they don't (didn't?) have riot 'history'? i.e. they aren't easy/lazy press shorthand for young black men and crime - which as you so importantly pointed out is to completely miss what was going on the last few days. Some small thing to be grateful for, ...I think...

    Thank you again for an excellent and important account - and please do keep writing!

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  19. Hello Motown - I don't know why you say you're not a good writer; this blog is brilliant and it should be on every politician's desk and read by everyone who goes on Sky or the News Channel before they start talking their usual sh*te... I don't know Camberwell very well but I hope you are safe and all is peaceful there tonight.

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  20. John (Hong Kong)10 August 2011 at 21:44

    Thanks for taking the time to write this. Found your article very interesting to read and thought it was a very balanced report. Living overseas but coming from Lewisham originally, the images and reports being shown on TV and in the newspapers have left me stunned and angry. I hope things settle down soon (possibly the English weather may help there) but the longer term effects and underlying causes will take years to resolve. Stay safe.

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  21. Great to read an account of what's been happening on the streets of London that doesn't appear to have an agenda.

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  22. I don't know if you continue to read your responses...but I felt the need to say thanks for this post. You have written wonderfully (humanely/honestly/calmly/not prejudiced) about your personal accounts of the riot. I have been greatly sadenned by the recent events. The main MPs have particularly frustrated me and how in the early days of the riots all they/the media could think of was...the olympics. I only wish I could put forward my ideas as clear as yourself. Thanks.

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  23. Thank you for sharing this. I'm in Houston Texas and I hope you and yours are well. Please know that people who care about what is happening to you and your community are out here. Even though we are a world away. Please keep writing.

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  24. You sincere and unpretentious account of the events made me live them as if I was there. Thank you. Needed to read something like this.

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  25. Brilliant piece of descriptive prose. Thank you from a country person.

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  26. Mowtown, You ARE a writer! Your excellent lucid and sober account puts most of the spun, sensationalist, polarised reporting in mainstream outlets to shame. Stay safe.

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  27. As other commenters have done, I agree with your emphasis on the belief of getting away with it as a major cause, and don't look forward to weeks of media sociological analysis and ideological axe-grinding. (Though no doubt people involved did not all have the same motivation, and there are numerous contributing factors for each person.)

    vb's summary of this is so eloquent it's worth repeating: "the severity of the punishment is never the most important factor in controlling behaviour, it's the certainty of getting caught, and the certainty of the punishment being carried out that makes the difference."

    I'm at a loss to see why this apparently obvious point is considered by some to be insulting, as if 'opportunism' is not a valid reason for acting. It may be because the majority of this speculation and analysis is done by adults, with adult rationalisation, wheras from what I can gather a large proportion of those taking part were children (i.e. under 18). Certainly when a large (over 100?) crowd went past my window at midnight on Sunday on the way to loot and burn the Brixton Footlocker, in another context they would have looked like an excited school daytrip.

    Many of these speculations on causes also seem to make grand generalisations as to the participants' backgrounds - upbringing, family situation, socio-economic status, employment status (how is a 14 year old "benefit scrounging scum"?), etc. Really, how do people know?

    It seems to make more sense that initiated by a very small number of people (probably inspired by the Tottenham trouble - which had a direct and more familiar cause) that the norm of 'people like me are doing it and getting away with it' was able to spread rapidly and widely via messaging, social media, and the real media. Spread so rapidly that the police were overwhelmed - which then further encouraged the spread. Added to this, I expect the young age of the participants discouraged the police from actively engaging or more heavy-handed tactics (including use of tear gas, etc), which re-inforced the idea that people could act with impunity.

    Excellent account Motown - thankyou.

    James

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  28. I travelled the same bus route but a bit earlier than you, so avoided it all. There was a weird kind of tension at Camberwell Green as people talked about the looting happening in Peckham on their mobiles. Interesting to read a factual account of what went on after I'd got in - thanks.

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  29. Thanks for a great article, and a sensible and rational commentary.

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  30. Amazing, I go out for a few drinks and come back to find thousands of visitors and hundreds of comments and even more amazingly, from scan reading, they appear to be mainly positive. I will read everything properly in the morning (as long as my head is not too sore) and try to respond where necessary. Cheers

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  31. Well said, fella. Don't agree with all your comments but I seriously appreciate the first-hand account.

    Would be more willing to accept your comments (as opposed to your excellent reportage) if the friggin' bankers, the CEOs, the politicians, and all the other 'looters' were looking at > 18 month's sentences, or more. But I doubt that's ever going to be the case: these guys make the rules and the winner takes it all.

    If, for only a few, crazy short hours during a few, crazy, long nights, the poor scum had a taste of what it's like to be 'Top Turd' - good luck to 'em. There ain't going to be many more of those piss-poor chances.

    In the triumphal, blood-letting, aftermath (yeah, take a bit o' trouble with some history, people. Start with the Romans), many an individual life, and a few functioning communities, will be trashed. Much more so than the damage done to a few shop-front windows and the sad trail of damaged, dysfunctional consumer goods.

    Frankly, at every level of society in the modern world, it's grab what you can. And fuck the rest...

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  32. Thanks Motown! I live in E&C and was wondering why there was no reporting too. Good to read some proper sense as well. You should definitely write more!

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  33. Thank you very much for writting that! It´s finally something readable and what´s more - it sounds truthful!
    Many thnaks from Czech :)

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  34. Thank you very much for the text, I think it covered many bits that were left in the shadows by the mass media. Only thing I wanted to add is that I assume many people actually were scared to be thrown out of the bus into the chaos, I have heard of an (adult, tall) guy who thought it was extremely frightening situation - sound of the breaking glass, people screaming and shouting. So I think it is always a bit relative what you consider threatening. But yes, apparently no violence towards the crowds were applied in Walworth, so in that case your description is very accurate. Again, thank you so much for sharing your experiences and thoughts, it is very much appreciated!

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  35. Thanks for writing this - most balanced account I've read.

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  36. I think this is a really excellent account. It really cuts through the media lens and gives a sense of reality. I know the streets well. While I was born in the Croydon borough and have returned to live here - I'm now 48 - my family were all born and bred in Walworth. I spent most of my Sundays with my Nan in the sixties in what was then Villa Street and after the mass clearances in a tower block on Portland Street where she was moved to. A year before her death, the Brixton riots took place and during that time, I was really lucky to be able to talk to her about them - an 18 year old A'level student in conversation with a 91 year old woman who was illiterate and yet had experience of the area going back to the 1890s. Walworth has always been a special place for me - vibrant and as educational as any university. More importantly, it is always my compass for assessing where urban Britain is currently and how the politicians are doing in regard to it. Of course, the latter have always been dismal. I recall Blair dancing out from Labour HQ in 97 to do a photo shoot on the Aylesbury and he just had no idea. The current lot are, of course, far far worse. I never thought I would say it but I'd take Thatcher over Cameron/Clegg any day.

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  37. Great read. Brilliant to see a first hand insight, thanks mate.

    I'll spread this article about as much as possible.

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  38. Are you planning to carry on the blog? Seems like lots of people (me included) would keep reading!

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  39. If only the news outlets would articulate the situation as well as you have. I'm in America (Chicago, IL) and have followed the news via BBC, Al Jazeera English and Sky. The knuckleheads they have commenting are useless. Your perspective confirms what I figured was actually taking place. Thanks for taking the time to share your perspective.

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  40. Thank you for your time and effort, they are really appreciated. I came through Guardian link, as many others, and while reading your report I felt like walking the street next to you. It beats any youtube videos. Keep on writing, it's fascinating! Greetings from Ukraine and hope it's really over now and UK will stay calm and safe for now on...

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  41. It still hasn't sunk in that my first blog has been read by so many people. Thanks for all your positive comments and for sharing (someone asked if they could link to the blog and of course i'm more than happy for that)

    I have read all the comments now and thought I'd respond to a couple of points. A few people (whom I assume know more about the subject than me) have questioned the effectiveness of water cannons in this situation. As mentioned I'm no expert and don't fully understand all the pro's and con's of this. Hopefully now the riots are over, therefore I'm willing to accept that just increasing police numbers was enough and give credit to police/politicians who didn't resort to any extreme measures such as water cannons - shame the increase in numbers didn't come earlier.

    Somebody felt I shouldn't have criticised Darcus Howe as he knows much more about the history of racism and class war than I do - which I don't refute adn was never my point. However on reflection I agree that I shouldn't have been so hard on him without explaining the reasons why, which although formed from first hand experience, I am not willing to share here. Therefore I have toned my criticism down.

    I was asked "Did you feel like stopping any of the people who were robbing and do you feel guilt for not doing so?" The honest answer to that is no. Knowing my personality, if I had felt that someone was in physical danger, then I think I would have had to get involved regardless of the consequences to myself - the Malaysian student being the perfect example of something that I think I would have tried to stop/help. If the police weren't prepared to intervene (and let's not forget they knew exactly what was going on) then I felt no duty to become a vigilante.

    Lastly, a few people have asked if I'll keep on blogging. I didn't plan to, however since I've had such good feedback and I've now been inspired by one of the previous comments as to the topic of my next post, I think I will post again in the next few days - hopefully I'll be able to make it a little more concise though!

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  42. Thank god someone has written about Walworth. I live in Walworth Place at the back of Marks and Spencer. I saw dozens and dozens of people running through my estate with TVs and sportswear, some of them trying to stash loot in the stairwells or bin areas.

    The area is either ignored or mistakenly referred to as "Camberwell" in press reports. The riots involved big numbers of people here and were certainly pretty tense at one stage. One of my neighbours, a secondary school girl told me "it had been all over Facebook all day" that the shops were getting done at 6pm. Many local businesses seemed to have caught wind earlier in the day and were closing as I arrived home from work.

    There wasn't much anger around, most of the looters were smiling and seemed to have had a great time.

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  43. thanks to have share this great article, journalist should take example when they write them bad 'novel' that we have to read daily,
    thank you

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  44. Finally a level headed viewpoint of what happened and why! Well done mate!

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  45. Great first hand account mate, enjoyable to read. I'm glad you took the time to write it. You clearly have a way with words. You say it took a lot of effort, I'm sure such a long post did but you'll find it'll become easier if you decide to continue writing this blog, which I hope you do. Regards, Tom

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  46. Great post. Thank you for taking the time.

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  47. Good account, well written, good images, better reported than anything else I've come across. Well done for getting it out.

    Thanks

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  48. I disagree whole-heartedly. You are a good writer; keep it up.

    I used to live between Walworth and the Old and New Kent Roads and it is a wonderful part of London which proves that diverse cultures can coexist well - this Irishman learned to love plantains there.

    It is such a shame that the area has been traumatised by what went on and I hope it heals soon.

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  49. So what did you and the rest of the crowd do? Just stand there and watch and take notes?

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  50. Thank you so much for writing this - your piece was forwarded to me on so many occasions I had to write in.

    I have no idea why you don't think you are much of a writer. Writers, by their very nature, write. That sounds flippant, I'll try again...

    You had a story that needed to be told, thoughts and opinions that are valid and important and needed to be conveyed. You took us down your streets and showed us what was happening in your part of the city - what it looked like, felt like. The behaviours of the people around you. It works. It's good.

    You're a writer. a good writer.

    Please keep writing.

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  51. Thanks for giving a genuine straight to the point, local perspective. The majority of the mainstream press should be ashamed of the reporting they have churned out.

    Although that guilt will never be admitted as they purposefully write what their specified readers want to hear. I am glad you have received the attention that you deserve.

    I look forward to reading more.

    Take it easy.

    Allix

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  52. Here via the Guardian. Seems there were lots of unreported incidents across London.

    I raised my daughter alone in a deprived inner city area and now live in one of the most wealthy parts. I can't tell you how sickened I am by the idiotic comments of the well-heeled surrounding me, baying for punishment of those they view as criminal thugs in one breath and bragging about their own tax fraud in the next, whilst paying builders and cleaners cash to attend to their multi-million pound homes!

    Hypocrites every last one of them!!

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  53. Somehow found this sitting north of Aberdeen. Really interesting and well written.

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  54. Here via the Guardian. Seems there were lots of unreported incidents across London.

    I raised my daughter alone in a deprived inner city area and now live in one of the most wealthy parts. I can't tell you how sickened I am by the idiotic comments of the well-heeled surrounding me, baying for punishment of those they view as criminal thugs in one breath and bragging about their own tax fraud in the next, whilst paying builders and cleaners in cash to attend to their multi-million pound homes!

    Flouting planning laws, business rates, and employment regulations, filing repeat dodgy insurance claims and lying to immigration to keep their cash-paid nannying and cleaning staff also deserve a (dis)honourable mention!!!

    Hypocrites, every last one of them!! Your average JD-Sports raiding hoodie costs society a good deal less I'll wager than the many and varied smugly-superior white-collar champagne-guzzling criminals curled up in front of their 'legitimately' purchased 42" HD B&O TVs round where I live tonight!!!

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  55. people like you and those that defended their livelihoods against all threats and those that got involved in the cleanup are inspirational. This is the real power of the network, to do real good.
    Well done to the people who experienced the same atmosphere of the riots and made something positive out of it.

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  56. Nice article mate.

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  57. "Best informative and insightful piece yet on the UK riots, no need for clueless mass-media with someone of your calibre!"

    +1

    Read in full, excellent piece!

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  58. Thanks for your time and effort to give this personal accounting. Be well!

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  59. Interesting. Thank you.

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  60. Nick: thanks for the informative article. I read it in no time, what a change from those outrageous ridiculous videos !

    please keep writing, I am reading you from France.

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  61. I'm reading from Okinawa, Japan. As a Londoner I have been checking out the sites and glad to have come across (you are a good writer) blog. I would like to laugh at the media's portrayal of Ealing. There are definately some shady parts. I grew up on South Acton estate and then a council estate in Acton Green, Chiswick, so was around ealing quite a bit. Ealing scares me man! But apart from that, thanks for the read and update. Peace and Love to my London masses x

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  62. I came to this blog from Sarah Carr's (great Egyptian blogger)post on 9th August
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    Thank you

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  63. Hello Nick - and bless you for putting a voice to what you saw and experienced on the Walworth Rd that night. I am sitting in Cape Town, an Irish brummie exile from Handsworth, and to my shame, found myself horribly transfixed to Sky 'news' several nights on end. I started out from the luxury of a baffled and perplexed perspective - on some reflex level wanting to fit these images into my old clothes of a class war narrative - but that wasn't working... Your word portrait of the elderly woman on the stranded bus with the driver whose blackness and bigness would hopefully keep her safe has stuck with me powerfully. I'm not there but I know in the marrow of my old bones that there is nothing racial in this equation - for all that the pundits and spinners attempt to position it so. And, by the way, you are eloquent - write more please. Thanks, Anne

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  64. Nice one Nick! Great to get a measured, honest, thoughtful first-hand account without media contamination. Sitting here in South Africa it was hard not to feel gleeful at first - you know, if it had happened here in the same way the ratings agencies would be demoting us to CCC- - but we soon felt guilty about that reaction - just because of the effects of all this on ordinary Brits. You guys need to go on doing some hard thinking on a community level - for sure the 'authorities' amd the media and political elite will draw all the wrong conclusions and make you all pay more, again.
    But looking at the overwhelming responses to your blog, it seems like the potential is already there. Good reason for optimism going forward.
    Strength, brother...

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  65. Thanks for this! I've been following the news coverage on the London riots from Finland, and this is one of the most informative and balanced pieces I've read! I recommend this article in Al Jazeera on the difference between understanding and condoning the riots: http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/08/201181110436244207.html

    /Sara K

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  66. Hi, it is posible to contact you by e-mail? I'm a portuguese journalist and I'll fly london next mounth. Before that I would like to make you some questions. Is that ok?

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  67. Hello!

    My name is Kendyll Pickard, I'm a Uni Student from the United States finishing up my final year. I am studying Journalism and for my final project have to write an in-depth investigation piece about any subject of my choosing. I've always been very interested in youth culture and the influence of music and was lucky enough to be writing this paper right as the London Riots broke out- resulting in a lot of flack being but on the rap/hip-hop/grime music scene for causing the violence. I've been doing a lot of research in to this subject and feel like there is still a lot left to be said about it before what many of these musicians were trying to say disappears and any progress made by these strong voices fades away.

    And on that note I would love to be able to 'pick your brain' so to say about what you as the artists, fans, supporters, or anything else you may be really feel on the subject. I am based in London and would obviously prefer a face to face chat, but I understand its a very busy time so any contact I may have over email, the phone, or any other thing would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much!

    - Kendyll Pickard
    kendyll313@yahoo.com
    07428490289

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  68. this was all taking place 200 metres from Walworth Police station (on Manor Place), so they must have been able to get one. I wondered why they didn't do anything about the traffic, ok the buses had to remain stationary, but Manor Place and Browning Street were open and cars were coming out of both of these roads.forklift-training/

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  69. Can I just say what a relief to find someone who actually knows what theyre talking about on the internet. You definitely know how to bring an issue to light and make it important. More people need to read this and understand this side of the story. I cant believe youre not more popular because you definitely have the gift.

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  71. I know I'm a bit behind in reading this but I really wish I had stumbled onto this earlier. This is a fantastic piece of writing.
    I live in Australia and am a uni student and have never experienced ANYTHING like what you are describing. Touch wood, I've never seen a looted shop or riots. There are usually a few small scale protests in the CBD from time to time but these are usually peaceful, in one location and are over by the time commuters are heading home.
    It was great to see a piece written from the point of view of a local, that wasn't hateful or agressive. It just stated the facts and had really insightful and reasonable views.
    Nice work.
    Please become a writer. You have a true talent.

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  72. Wow an amazing piece! I really think you summed up things better than people who WORK IN THE BBC AND SKYNEWS!

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  73. well said, as a resident of walworth i saw first hAND what went on and on the days of disturbances both my girlfriend and i were uncomfortable in our home.... when i asked a police officer what to do should do if intruders tried to make it into my flat (which was next door to a commercial shop) they said.... and i quote... "dont bother calling 999 - no one will come, just grab a metal bar and fend them off.... you wont get prosecuted" !!! TRUTH !!! tHIS DIDNT fill me with hope and i felt very alone and vunerable as i realised that this was the first time that the UK had lost control and there is nothing stopping this from happening if you get enough people... look at the riots in spain and greece...., the fabric of civilization is balancing on a very fine line between order and lawlessness at any time on any given day in any place.... food for thought. i will always remember those days.

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  74. I live in Camberwell which borders Brixton, where there had been riots the night before and I was actually lucky not to get caught up in. I was driving home pretty late in the evening and I would normally have gone through Brixton, (exactly through where the looting and fires were taking place), but I recalled there had been some road works the last time I'd been in the area (couple of weeks ago) and so instead went a different route. london flats for rent


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  79. I'm currently writing my undergraduate dissertation on the riots and the mass media versus social media coverage and I must say that this is a truly thoughtful and insightful piece. I'm from Kennington myself so I grew up in and around the area so I only wish I could have seen this at the time and share with friends to give some clarity amongst the ridiculous sensationalism demonstrated by the mass media. I think you'd make a wonderful journalist. I've struggled to find another example of citizen journalism via social media quite like this. I'll definitely be looking to include some of this as an example in my dissertation. Thank you for making it that little bit easier! Keep writing!

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